Obama-Fake Birth Certificate?
Obama has posted what appears to be a fake birth certificate on his “smears” page to end rumors that he is not a US Citizen. If he has nothing to hide, why post a fake document? For he can get a new one. It appears the image posted on Obama’s “smears” page is a copy of what was posted by “Kos”. Doesn’t Obama have a certified copy? Why did his own campaign have to copy it off a blog? Why does he spend thousands of dollars fighting cases in Court instead of allowing us to see the original long form Birth Certificate? There are a whole series of articles on this subject at this link: polarik.blogtownhall.com also see : web.israelinsider.com also search the Israelinsider.com for more articles on Obama’s Birth Certificate. Here is the latest info. The Fonts, type spacing and border does not match any other Hawaii certificates from any year: web.israelinsider.com New info:Obama has claimed for years that his parents were married in Feb, 1961, but, no proof of this has ever been found. Earlier this month, Michelle Obama let it slip that Obama’s mother was “very young and very single when she had him.” Obama is an illegitimate child and possibly an illegal alien. www.huffingtonpost.com
That is correct. These documents should have an emblossed seal and a signature of the State Registrar-Obama’s image lacks both of them.
OBAMACARE/OBAMA ELIGIBILITY MARCH ON WASHINGTON
At the Ellipse Presidents Park South
17th St & Constitution Ave, NW
DATE: SATURDAY, MAY 29, 2010
TIME: 12:00 NOON 4:00 P.M.
Phillip Berg Esq is hosting this historic event. He filed the first lawsuit to make Obama prove his eligibility to serve as President according to Article II, Section I of the Constitution.
@purldiver, Yes, and this is the video which helped start the movement.
There are so many wonderful people living in this great country. But quite frankly, the rest of them is scary (like those guys showing no respect at all to their own president). Best regards from a German.
@Ostriker99, Showing President Bush no respect was OK with you though wasn’t it? Respect is earned. When a leader has no respect for the people of his own nation, he will get none in return.
@ForBibletruth No it was not. I was actually one of the very few Germans who supported the war in Iraq but only until I found out that false information about a potential threat was intentionally provided. Respect is earned.
@ForBibletruth what you said is stupid, you are a natural born citizen if you are born in thic country period. you conservatives cant get over the fact that obama won the election
@pollorifa13, The Supreme Court has defined a “Natural born citizen” as ” those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857): “natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens”. Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 167-68 (1875): “it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens”.
@pollorifa13, One is called a natural born citizen, because, by the very nature of their birth, they are subject only to the jurisdiction of the nation in which they are born. This can only be achieved by having two US citizen parents and being born in the US. Because Obama’s father was a British Subject, his citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. If he was born under the jurisdiction of a foreign nation or multiple nations, then he is not a natural born citizen.
@pollorifa13, So it would seem, that you just can’t get over the fact that Obama is NOT legally eligible to be the President, and should have never been allowed on the ballot. Now, he is usurping the highest office of the land, doing all he can to destroy our nation, while you sit back, and say, We Won! What exactly did you win?
@ForBibletruth , not true, it states only one parent is required to be a citizen if the child is NOT born within the United States. However, the citizen-parent must have lived in the U.S. for at least 10 years, 5 of which were after the age of 14. Obama’s mother was 15 weeks short of 19 when she gave birth. So the deciding factor is where Obama was actually born.
@emplehod, Excuse me, but, what you are referring to is immigration law. Immigrants are NOT natural born citizens, and immigrants are NOT eligible to run for the office of President. Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.
@ForBibletruth , Actually, I’m not. This is pertaining to natural-born citizens; Only one parents needs to be a citizen. The best argument is that the one citizen-parent needs to reside in the U.S. for 5 years after age 16 prior to the birth of the child. Since Obama’s mother was 18, this was not the case.
@emplehod, The age and residencey requirements that you are quoting, come from Title III, section 301g [8 U.S.C. 1401], of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which only applies to persons born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States.
@emplehod, Think about what you are saying, and then reread the law. According to you, a child born to an under age girl, would not be considered a US citizen, regardless of where the child was born. Again, Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. Not all citizens, born within the USA are considered natural born citizens.
@ForBibletruth ,A natural-born citizen refers to anyone who has US citizenship from the moment of his or her birth — i.e., someone who did not have to be “naturalized” because he/she was born “natural” (i.e., born a citizen).
@emplehod, The Supreme Court has defined a “Natural born citizen” as ” those born in the country, of parents who are citizens.” Dred Scott v. Sandford, 60 U.S. 393 (1857): “natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens”. Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162, 167-68 (1875): “it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens”.
@ForBibletruth , Yes, of parents who are citizens, that is one way, but it’s not the only way. Both parents DO NOT have to be citizens. You can’t just pick and choose the clause you want and ignore the other ones.
@ForBibletruth For example: If a Mexican couple (non-U.S. citizens) gave birth to little Jose and Jose moved to the U.S. and later became a citizen, he would NOT qualify to run as president. But if this couple crossed the border and little Jose was born on American soil, he is a “natural-born” citizen and thus eligible to be president, simple as that.
@emplehod, Anchor babies can NOT be elected President. Have you not read the 14th Amendment? In addition to being born here, one is required to be “subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.”
@emplehod, The 14th Amendment states, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
@emplehod, Sen. John Bingham, the man recognized as being the father of the Amendment, had this to say on the subject of the jurisdiction clause: Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.
@emplehod, Obama has admitted on his own fight the smears website, that his citizenship status was subject to the jurisdiction of the British nationality Act of 1948. This would mean, that he was not subject only to the jurisdiction of the United States, but, if he was born in Hawaii, subject to the jurisdiction of multiple nations. A natural born citizen, would be subject only to the jurisdiction of the nation in which he was born, and not subject to the jurisdiction of any foreign nation.
@emplehod, You are wrong, period! You say, ” You can’t just pick and choose the clause you want and ignore the other ones.”, but, that is exactly what you are doing. I told you what the Supreme Court has stated, yet, you refuse to accept the truth. So, show me the law, which you claim I am ignoring, which states that anyone born in the United States is a “natural born citizen”. Good Luck with that.
@emplehod, In the US Supreme Court case Elk v. Wilkins, 112 U.S. 94 (1884),
the Court held “subject to the jurisdiction of the United States”, meant, ” not merely subject in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiance.”
The Hawaiian birth certificate as given to the public is valueless for it is not certified. Such certificates are useless as documentation in the U.S. — even for going over the Boarder to Mexico or applying for a Visa, or purchasing tobacco. An non-certified copy of any document can be reproduced and changed by any computer and/or printer.
Even if he was in fact born in Hawaii (and I have come to the point of having doubts on that score), he is not a Natural Born Citizen as required to be POTUS.
The requirement is to be born on the soil and to have citizen parents. Being born in Hawaii is not sufficient to meet the qualification for POTUS. He cannot meet the citizen parent requirement because his mother was under the required age to confer citizenship. His father was a Kenyan/British citizen, so at the very least at the time of birth he had dual citizenship. Dropping the Kenyan citizenship at the legal age makes no difference, since it is citizenship at birth that counts.
On top of that there is the time in Indonesia. If he was adopted by Soetoro and was made an Indonesian citizen then that is an added complication since it means that he owes allegiance to Indonesia as well.
The bo-bots make the false claim about citizenship because they have been dumbed down. They do not understand that the Kim Wong Ark case only establishes the citizenship of a child born to resident alien parents. In this case the parents were Chinese and not allowed to be citizens. The case did not cover NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP as required for POTUS but did cover NATIVE born status.
From everything I have been reading, and especially with that COLB being a fake, plus the fact that fact-check.org was a Soros funded group nothing had been established from an independent source. Even the Hawaii health dept people have lied through their teeth.
good to see you got it right on!